The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development’s Observatory on Public Sector Innovation is running a major consultative exercise entitled Government After Shock, which is intended to stimulate discussion among practitioners and academics world wide about what the public sector should be doing when Covid – 19 finally ends. I gave a 20 minute interview for this exercise in which I discuss what I came to realize as a result of the pandemic, what we should leave behind, what we should keep, and which policies or management practices we should pursue post-Covid – 19.

To summarize radically, I realized that we inexorably are in the Anthropocene era, that we must leave behind superstition, that we must keep international cooperation, and that we should treat pandemics as an existential threat to our species and our planet, comparable to nuclear weapons and climate change.

Here is a link to the interview.